VFNM - We fight against dictatorship in Conquest!

[frodosam]

Hi guys,

I want to introduce you a new rising group: The VFNM GROUP!

>>>>>>VOTE FOR NEW MAPS GROUP<<<<<<

The VFNM GROUP is against the dictatorship in conquest. We want a free, nice game. So we need nice maps.
We are against Pay for Play and against dictator admins in conquest, who want, that we PAY FOR PLAY GOOD GAMES!

The VFNM GROUP wants at least LESS HTDM, LESS SHIRE
and NO RIVENDELL.


Every day we notice, that when HTDM comes, many many players leave the server, because they dont wanna play heroes.

THE VFNM GROUP IS AGAINST HTDM; RIVENDELL AND SHIRE and whishs new maps.

We are against the dictatorship in conquest.

EVERYBODY WHO SAYS SOMETHING AGAINST THE MAPS IS ATTACKED BY SWEARWORDS FROM ADMINS!

WE WANNA STOP IT!
WE FIGHT AGAINST IT!
WE WANT NEW MAPS!
WE ARE VFNM!


Our plan is it, to have one server, completly without HTDM AND RIVENDELL and one server with it.

SO EVERYBODY HAS THE CHANCE TO PLAY A NICE and UNLAGGY GAME.


VFNM IS A FREE GROUP - consisting from unpaid members.

Joining is easy!

Only one step is needed!

STEP 1:

PUT [VFNM] IN YOUR NAME AND FIGHT AGAINST NOOBMAPS IN CONQUEST.


Summary our goals are:

NO HTDM
NO RIVENDELL
LESS SHIRE


Who has the eggs to do something against DICTATORSHIP in Conquest, against ADMINS WHICH DONT CHANGE THE MAPS AND WANT MONEY FOR CHANGES !!

WE ARE VFNM!!!

[Durin]

I agree with the less htdm! Just get spammed with these spammy maps.

[Darklion]

WBA wanting HTDMing maps???
cooz dey fan???
forever??

[Mayhem]

Hey guys,

When we started CNQ Reboot we wanted to run the server with a fair balance of all modes. It's certainly true that many PC players and PS3 players dislike hero, but it's equally the case that for many Xbox players, HTDM is their favourite mode. People have different tastes. Ronjons and I, for example, hate CTR, but leave it included on the servers because we recognise that a lot of people really enjoy that mode. My favourite map in the game is Shire HTDM and I hugely enjoy archer shoot-outs there. Other people enjoy melee games. In the early days of the server many people wanted us to ban all mage and archer players, but this would have been ridiculous: the servers are for all classes and all players are welcome.

It would be completely unfair to ban, limit or restrict a certain mode based on the wishes of a vocal minority. There was an issue on Mixed 2 where 3 of 5 maps in a row were Mt Doom HTDM but this was fixed months ago.

We would like to support all modes and allow all classes. This is hardly a dictatorship.

I'd also like to draw your attention to sacrifices made by our long term admins/donators. Ronjons has spent over 800 euro on supporting this game, allowing many users to have hunderds and hundreds of hours of gameplay time. We run the servers on a non-profit basis accepting donations. While (contrary to your claim) there is no obligation to pay, I think it's quite disgusting for someone who has donated absolutely nothing - not even a cent - (despite hundreds and hundreds of hours of play time) to go around slandering, lying about and insulting the people that pay for him to play. What do you think?

Sorry if that seems too harsh, but from the start we've had a policy of supporting all maps and all modes.

[morgoth]

That is everything what was needed to be said.

Also some time ago, we set new server CNQREBOOT.INFO_MIXED NEW!. There is lowered htdm happening opposite to All Maps mixed.
As many times I saw, All maps is used more than the other one That means people are fine to play every map, every mode, one by one. You should go with your mates to the 2nd server then if you don't like too much of htdm.

Actual map set in CNQREBOOT.INFO_MIXED NEW!:
       <Level Name="osgiliath" Mode="Conquest" />
       <Level Name="minastirith_top" Mode="teamdm" />
<Level Name="Shire" Mode="ctr" />
       <Level Name="Moria" Mode="Conquest" />
       <Level Name="Helm'sDeep" Mode="teamdm" />
<Level Name="Minas_Morgul" Mode="ctr" />
<Level Name="BlackGates" Mode="hero_teamdm" />
<Level Name="pelennorfields" Mode="Conquest" />
<Level Name="minastirith" Mode="teamdm" />
<Level Name="Moria" Mode="ctr" />
<Level Name="Minas_Morgul" Mode="Conquest" />
<Level Name="Isengard" Mode="teamdm" />
<Level Name="Mount_Doom" Mode="ctr" />
<Level Name="Minas_Morgul" Mode="hero_teamdm" />
<Level Name="Weathertop" Mode="Conquest" />
<Level Name="osgiliath" Mode="teamdm" />
<Level Name="minastirith_top" Mode="ctr" />
<Level Name="Shire" Mode="Conquest" />
<Level Name="Moria" Mode="teamdm" />
<Level Name="pelennorfields" Mode="ctr" />
<Level Name="Mount_Doom" Mode="hero_teamdm" />
<Level Name="Rivendell" Mode="Conquest" />
<Level Name="Weathertop" Mode="teamdm" />
<Level Name="Helm'sDeep" Mode="Conquest" />
<Level Name="Shire" Mode="ctr" />
<Level Name="minastirith" Mode="Conquest" />
<Level Name="pelennorfields" Mode="teamdm" />
<Level Name="minastirith_top" Mode="ctr" />
<Level Name="Shire" Mode="hero_teamdm" />
<Level Name="BlackGates" Mode="Conquest" />
<Level Name="Rivendell" Mode="teamdm" />
       <Level Name="Minas_Morgul" Mode="ctr" />
<Level Name="Mount_Doom" Mode="Conquest" />
<Level Name="Helm'sDeep" Mode="teamdm" />
       <Level Name="Rivendell" Mode="ctr" />
<Level Name="Mount_Doom" Mode="hero_teamdm" />

[morgoth]

Shire with Rivendell happens 7 times at all in addition with other htdms its at all 10 times (htmds, shire, rivendell). From over 40 games it gives just 25%. Seems legit to survive.

[John_is_George]

Well said Mayhem!

The playlist is fine and needs no changes. Completely disrespectful to Ronjons, Onde, Mayhem and all the other donators to come along and demand that the playlist be changed.

[Durin]

Ok mayhem, your arguments are valid

[frodosam]

I also can understand it but i think that there are so many players, which hate it and leave server. So the HTDM-Maps takes more and more time, and so it seems that it is more HTDM.

[dirtyprotest]

well said may.
now my time to spoil it.
gimli goes with everything (especially with bilbo & dwarf entourage coming in december).

[will9113]

A full of week of pure htdm I say! That will teach them!!!

On a side note this reminds me I ahavent donaed since the beggining of time lol. *Puts head in shame and drops a coin in the jar* lol.

[Taco]

Taquito for one loves HTDM for many reasons, be it the challenge of a gandy onslaught in Mount Doom HTDM, the sheer marksmanship required on Shire HTDM, the siege-like attacking/defending of the hill+gate on the Black Gate HTDM, or for the unique warriors HTDM has to offer.

I highly doubt that the majority would do away with HTDM seeing as how so many of the regulars today are mage spammers who seem to relish their only chance at getting a good score via the oh so overpowered Gandalf Greyhame! Ill class is an ill guest! xD

The only fair way to ensure everyone gets a chance at their fetish -and avoid a dictatorship - would be to leave the servers as they are with all maps, all modes, and no class restrictions.

So, VFNM, make like a tree, and LEAVE!!! ;D ;D ;D

[DemonLord]

I want to fight only to make ppl admit that Saruman the True White (not that Gandalf White Pretender) is best and most overpowered mage in game.

About maps. I think that every man and girl who play that game has own taste, its hard to make anyone happy. There are maps which i dislike too, like moria tdm or weathertop cnq with their camping hills. I can sometimes play with them and dont get angry but many times i just refuse to play and wait until next map arrive, no one force me to play it if i dont.

Frodo is right to some degree but the main problem is in ppl who play game, not maps. Community is spamming Gandalf white pretender or camping on hills.

[Raj]

There is a lot of people who enjoy playing in HTDM mode.Most games spoiled by some players who spam and camp in htdm mode and they are finding an excuse "we are skipping this map".
As morgoth said,All maps mixed is always full,most people prefer to play there.I noticed that too.
So we allow all maps.No restrictions.Happy world.Be cool ;D xD

[Taco]

Aug 18, 2012 17:49:55 GMT DemonLord said:

I want to fight only to make ppl admit that Saruman the True White (not that Gandalf White Pretender) is best and most overpowered mage in game.

In the books Saruman is a fool, unlike Gandalf .

One of the clearest examples of his folly being that he had to break White to find out what it is. White is a combination of all colours, so by giving himself the title Saruman of Many Colours it's not an enhancement but a reduction:

"White! It serves as a beginning. White cloth may be dyed. The white page can be overwritten; and the white light can be broken." - Saruman

"In which case it is no longer white, and he that breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom." - Gandalf

[DemonLord]

In my interpretation, Saruman refuses to be binded and wants to reach his full potential. Each of Istari had their own colors and specializations. Saruman as stated was most powerful and wisdom (at least about Rings) of all wizards, thats why he was a head of the Council. Now Saruman wants to forge his own path, leave limitations imposed on him by Valars.

I read somewhere, that Tolkien was rather conservative person, in his letters he disliked modernity and machinery, calling it Sarumanism.

[Thorin Oakenshield]

HTDM encourages you to play new classes... I never had played Nazgul before and rarely play Hero mage which I now try out for Olympics.

Sorry to disappoint you Taquito but Saruman is the best

[morgoth]

I am sorry to disapoint you all but here, the talk is coming to the end. Things have been cleared up, and the last about wheter gandalf or saruman is better you can argue in the game.

Thread is locked.

~~Gonna make soon more details about server~~