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Post by frodosam on Aug 26, 2012 14:15:45 GMT
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Post by morgoth on Aug 26, 2012 16:08:02 GMT
pure week of htdm gg
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Post by frodosam on Aug 26, 2012 16:09:09 GMT
how about pure HTDM Server `?
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Post by morgoth on Aug 26, 2012 16:11:24 GMT
dats what i meant. and to suprise you ... NOT ONLY 1 SERVER, 2 SERVERS
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Post by frodosam on Aug 26, 2012 16:15:31 GMT
You dont have to be ironic or sarcastic, or even angry, only because few players show another opinion than yours Whats wrong to show our mind? Why you are against it? And why you get angry?
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Post by morgoth on Aug 26, 2012 16:20:39 GMT
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Post by frodosam on Aug 26, 2012 16:22:42 GMT
morg you didnt answered on my question, whats wrong to show the OWN OPINION?
I know that admins pay money, but because of that i cant show it???
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Post by morgoth on Aug 26, 2012 16:28:19 GMT
indeed you are all free to tell your opinion, but creating a group what name is "vote for new maps" and calling there phrases like eg. "we fight for new maps" or as well calling ppl who donate "dictators" goes above than just normal showing own point of the situation. Your group is kinda like a rebel or somewhat similiar. As long as anything gonna apear with that tag, its gonna be bullyed by me and maybe even by some other ppl just because you made wrong steps at own begining of group.
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Post by Taco on Aug 26, 2012 16:36:27 GMT
Yes freedom of speech is the right of everyone, but what we're trying to make you see is that everybody has different tastes. As Mayhem mentioned, it'd be extremely unfair to unbalance the servers just to accommodate a vocal minority, and indeed that's what you are. Don't try and act like you and some 7-12 other players represent the people or even just the majority of this community, because you unmistakably do not.
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Post by frodosam on Aug 26, 2012 16:41:06 GMT
Taco, we write, that WE want changes. We nowhere write, that we are the majority....
I think, if the high rank admins and low rank admins wont be so angry because of VFNM, many other people would also join.
A good evening for you now.
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Post by Taco on Aug 26, 2012 17:01:29 GMT
Taco, we write, that WE want changes. We nowhere write, that we are the majority.... I think, if the high rank admins and low rank admins wont be so angry because of VFNM, many other people would also join. A good evening for you now. Alright, forgive me. VFNM does not pretend to represent the majority's demands. However, it does inconsiderately demand servers void of HTDM and Rivendell despite the opinions of those contrary to their own. The only way to fairly meet what everyone wants is to leave the servers balanced. To my understanding there is already a server with less HTDM as it is, so to me at least your discontent is outrageously impertinent. As V would say, vanquish this virulent vexation!
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Post by dirtyprotest on Aug 29, 2012 0:08:04 GMT
how about pure HTDM Server `? Splendid idea. VFNM_HTDM: gimli,gimli, gimli,frodo, gimli and gimli maps sorted.
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Post by -eQ. Húrin on Aug 29, 2012 11:21:27 GMT
Shame on you dirtyprotest, change that picture! It is a slight against the victims and not a little bit cool, trollolol or funny!
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Post by Thorin Oakenshield on Sept 3, 2012 9:27:13 GMT
I thought this was already over Just leave when HTDM comes up if you dont like it
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Post by frodosam on Sept 3, 2012 13:07:50 GMT
Taco are you Nazi?
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Post by Taco on Sept 3, 2012 15:54:25 GMT
If you're asking if I'm a member of the Nazi Socialist Party, the answer would be a no. More likely you're asking if I'm a fascist, and again the answer is no, and I have no idea why you would think that I am. Because my opinion differs from your own? Are you against opposition or fascism? As you seem to think that I'm only trying to contradict you, let me try and clear the air. I'm not supporting a dictatorship, on the contrary, I am trying to avert one, or at least any partiality. Again, the only way to fairly meet what everybody wants is to leave the servers in equilibrium. If the servers have less HTDM maps, some will be upset, others happy, and vice versa. Personally I would love it if there was more HTDM and CTR, but I know not everybody would agree with me. Here's an analogy for you, assuming that there's already a dictatorship - which there is not: The tyrannical Dark Lord Sauron(admin angries) must be destroyed, but the men of Gondor(VFNM) wish to wield the Ring of Power(tyranny) instead of destroying it. They would overthrow Sauron, but they'd only replace him, and be "Dark, benevolent and terrible as the storm" themselves. It'd still be a dictatorship, just with different motives. But this isn't a dictatorship, not remotely. *sigh* Video game politics...
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Post by frodosam on Sept 3, 2012 16:04:33 GMT
SO why you disliked the post?
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Post by Taco on Sept 3, 2012 18:04:56 GMT
I'm lost. Which post are you talking about? VFNM posts and its cause as a whole? I don't agree with them/VFNM for already numerously stated reasons...
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Post by Thorin Oakenshield on Sept 3, 2012 18:31:22 GMT
Frodo's talking about you disliking Hurin's post which was about Ronjons' post
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Post by Taco on Sept 3, 2012 19:44:36 GMT
ah I see now lol. This is about Ron's Hitler avatar...I was under the impression that Frodo was calling me a Nazi simply because I protest VFNM.
I don't think the picture should be taken so seriously. Frodo and VFNM have made the admins out to be "dictators" by calling them that etc. and acting like the Conquest community is under oppression, so I'm assuming in a light-hearted jest Ron adopted Adolf as his avatar. I don't see the problem here. Indeed Hitler is not a very good role model XD but the question is, why didn't this issue, if an issue at all, arise when Joppi made the ranting Fuhrer parody lol XD?
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Post by -eQ. Húrin on Sept 4, 2012 12:29:55 GMT
I think not taking Hitler and this whole topic too serious is a mistake...
I woudnt attack protest if he woudnt know about Hitlers history, but he got internet and probably learned about nationalsocialism in school. So I do not tolerate it.
A little story: When I was India lately a lot of Indians asked us wehere are we from. When we answered Germany the only thing they knew about us was Hitler. Because of an absolutly unknown reason they liked him^^ I think they dont know very much about him or the Nazis so I tolerated it, but here I have to tell my opinion!
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Post by frodosam on Sept 4, 2012 14:33:47 GMT
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Post by will9113 on Sept 4, 2012 14:40:41 GMT
lol people need to take a joke for a joke or we wont be able to laugh about anything. Ronjons isnt exactly the first person to make a joke about hitler.
Genghas khan (pr numerous other people) did just as horrible things but doesnt stop people playing video games like mount n blade or w/e in a character based on him which would be worse.
Hitler is in the past now it would be different if it was now but it isnt a jokes a joke.
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Post by suzda on Sept 4, 2012 15:38:41 GMT
frodosam german angrie
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Post by Taco on Sept 4, 2012 16:15:10 GMT
Don't get me wrong, I have no respect for Hitler and the atrocities he committed, but you have to give it to him that he was actually living out his philosophy, whether you agree with it or not. Hitler was influenced by Darwinism, which provides a logical basis for an autonomous, domineering will, expelling any kind of morality. "Atheism provides every reason to be immoral and is bereft of any objective point of reference with which to condemn any choice. Any atheist who lives a moral life merely lives better than his or her philosophy warrants." - Ravi Zacharias "The VFNM GROUP is against the dictatorship in conquest. We want a free, nice game. So we need nice maps. We are against Pay for Play and against dictator admins in conquest, who want, that we PAY FOR PLAY GOOD GAMES!" "Who has the eggs to do something against DICTATORSHIP in Conquest, against ADMINS WHICH DONT CHANGE THE MAPS AND WANT MONEY FOR CHANGES !!" Key word is want. Indeed they'd appreciate donations, but it is not obligatory. However it is important for the maintaining of these servers. You've clearly made the Admins to be dictators thrice over. Now you're mad because they jestfully assume the position of VFNM's antagonist, keeping you in business and kindly providing you that delicious false sense of noble courage you feel in rebelling against what undoubtedly is mindlessly cruel oppression? A jokes a jokes. Here's one for the Canadians ^^: youtu.be/l9T8_xkYNg0
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